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lizzybennet ([personal profile] lizzybennet) wrote2011-01-11 08:39 am

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Chris went to grad school at the Univ. of Arizona. We lived less than a mile from where the shooting took place and have been to that particular shopping center on more than one occasion. Chris was an adjunct at Pima Comm. College, where the shooter went to school.

At the time we lived in Tucson, there was a shooting at the Univ. in the nursing school. A failing student shot three of his professors and then himself. I haven't heard anyone mention the most recent tragedy in connection with the nursing school shooting, but in my opinion this speaks very loudly about the need for better gun control laws in Arizona. I know. They won't stand to hear of such things. We knew people out there who had oodles of guns, including automatic weapons. There is still a certain feel of "the wild west" out there, with the desert always reminding you that you live in a place where humans don't really belong.

This shooting is a tragedy. There's no question about it. But I hope we can learn something from this, as a society. I wish we could stop the poisonous, negative rhetoric and just learn to work together.

[identity profile] mysteena.livejournal.com 2011-01-12 06:16 pm (UTC)(link)
If I'm not mistaken, in Arizona people are not required to have a permit to carry a concealed weapon. That's what bothers me. I don't mind if people carry them, if they have a permit and have gone through the appropriate background checks.

As for the Columbine kids, I feel the parents failed in a huge way. It is so important for parents to pay attention to what is going on in their kids' lives. Granted, the Tucson kid was older and his parents may have felt like he was an adult, but still. They should have taken the recommendations of Pima CC much more seriously. Let's be honest. There are a lot of weirdos at community college. It cannot be easy to get kicked out, so he must have really had some serious issues manifesting themselves. He also had a huge youtube presence where he ranted and raved about this stuff. But who was watching it? No one until after the shooting. There is so much crazy out there, how do we know when someone is just crazy enough to actually act upon their delusions?

Our campus has a very detailed plan in place in case of a shooter. Does yours?

[identity profile] themenow.livejournal.com 2011-01-12 07:21 pm (UTC)(link)
They don't have to have permits? AIYEEE!! Okay, now that I agree with you on! I think if anyone has a gun they have to have a permit. No permit, no gun!

I agree with you on the Columbine kids' parents. How did they not know? I had no privacy as a kid. None! And it kept me honest.

The kid at my mom's current CC that tried to jump was taken away by the police and put under 72 hour mental health evaluation. My mom thinks he was coked up and thinking he would do a "jackass" stunt but when the cops arrived he was all, "oh life sucks! suicide!" Her students agree with her though as they have told her he shoots up a lot. I think he's in jail now.

UF has an emergency service that sends out text messages, emails, and other alerts if something like this comes up. Now as to what we should do if someone comes in guns blazing...no one has told me what to do. We've been told that anyone that threatens violence or is violent we're to call campus police. They also give us a two page form on how to handle not only trouble students but troubled staff. How to encourage them to visit the counselors, who to call in we're worried, etc.